Buffalo arms company sells over 12000 black powder cartridge rifles. I also have a 45110 that i hunt with and it has been suggested to me to use fg goex for my 45110 paper patch bullets. Refining paperpatched loads for smokeless powder load data. Questions about paper patching the 45120 cast bullet forum.
I use swiss fffg powder with my 4570 grease grove bullets for silhouette shooting. In straight shells with paperpatch to bore bullets, i normally use a 116 thick cork wad, but with the bottleneck shell, i found that two 18 cork wads filled the gap between the 80 gr of powder at shoulder height and bullet barely in the end of the shell mouth, and didnt seem to interfere with the bullet obturation at all. I can safely patch a cast bullet, but i would have some concerns of loosing a patch in the barrel of of a copper jacketed bullet. A proper paper patch has a strong grip on the core you cannot turn it or pull it off the core without destroying it. Winchester metal patched 110 grain super speed bullets for 30 w. Patch template my question is about the sizing of the bullets.
Hunting with paper patch bullets in sharps 45120 aka 45110 by tom ball taking elk with a paper patch bullet. Paper patch supplies, paper patch templates, paper patch paper, lead bullets, paper patch bullets. Okay, so what distinguishes a paper patch chamber from a nonpaper patch chamber. This is a discussion on paper patching 45 70 within the lever action forums, part of the gun forum category. Would paper patching reduce leading in s rifled barrel. Paperpatching your inline muzzleloader western powders. Well as for the big 45 there is the 45 110 or 120 with a 540 grain paper patch bullet. Paper patched bullets ppb are probably the most controversial of all lead. It was also known as the 45 70 sharps, but it was dimensionally identical to the military round. Is paper patching a fair replacement for lube in a black powder rifle for conicals. A 45 110 was a max of 110 grains of black powder and a 540 grain patched bullet. My 45100 i use for 1k yard matches uses 105gr of 1. Refining paperpatched loads for smokeless powder load.
Here are the benefits of shooting paper patched bullets in your inline. Hunting with paper patch bullets in sharps 45 120 aka 45 110. Sources indicate the sharps rifle company offered a variety of bullets in this caliber, including a 293 grain express, a 400 grain grooved bullet and paper patched bullets in 400, 420, 500 and 550. But if he were firing this load it would have kicked his butt out of the camera shot. If you are shooting pp bullets, you may find that the bullet does not bump up on ognition.
It was also known as the 4570 sharps, but it was dimensionally identical to the military round. Sharps 45110 paper patch buffalo rifle bullseye at 410 yards. Hunting with paper patch bullets in sharps 45 120 aka 45 110 by tom ball. It is a myth that paper patch bullets need to be pure lead. Hunting with paper patch bullets in sharps 45120 aka 45110. Excellent condition, fully decked out, double set triggers, octagon barrel, creedmore rear sight has spirit level front sight with a. I just ordered a perdesoli 1874 sharps snipe rifle. Top long range muzzleloading targt shooters of the mid 1800s commonly relied on paperpatched conical bullets. The slight shrinking of the aroundthecore patch length, as the paper dries, causes the patch to grip the ppcb core and to suck down shrink into any lube grooves in the core. Using a two stage sizing process to create cheap bullets to keep you shooting. Paper patched bullets are still available, and some blackpowder shooters still roll their own paper patched bullets for hunting and competitive shooting. In straight shells with paper patch to bore bullets, i normally use a 116 thick cork wad, but with the bottleneck shell, i found that two 18 cork wads filled the gap between the 80 gr of powder at shoulder height and bullet barely in the end of the shell mouth, and didnt seem to interfere with the bullet obturation at all.
Then use egg whites as a binding glue to seal the tail end of the paper patch to the bullet. The 45 110 stands for 45 caliber and 110 grains of black powder. The 45lcs heavier bullets would be good to patch up to be shot in a 4570 or even in a 45lc. I would like to shoot one but not own one, they really kick. Buffalo arms is closed on the following holidays so that our employees can spend time with their families. We go over a few more basics in our paper patching discussion. New years day, memorial day, independence day, labor day, thanksgiving and the day after, christmas eve open until 12. In his march 1977 article paper patched bullets come of age, harrison provides a few rules for the shooter using a paper patch to obtain top velocities with poured slugs.
Paper patched or lubricated lead bullets can be swaged in two basic styles, the swc shoulder style shown here, and the smooth ogive style shown below. The use of paper patched bullets is especially known from the buffalo hunts on the american prairies where millions of the shaggy beasts fell for paper patched bullets. Well as for the big 45 there is the 45110 or 120 with a 540 grain paperpatch bullet. I dont paper patch, but some who do, will size them to say. Ive found that its quite easy to get this cartridge shooting with bore diameter patched bullets if your friend wants to try. Top long range muzzleloading targt shooters of the mid 1800s commonly relied on paper patched conical bullets. The 45lcs heavier bullets would be good to patch up to be shot in a 45 70 or even in a 45lc. I may have just figured out why the chamber dimensions seemed off. Like the cloth or paper patches used in muzzleloading firearms, the paper patch fell off soon after the bullet left the bore.
You could also get this case loaded with 95, 100, and 105 grains of black powder. I also wipe my own loaded cartridges with a paper towel before boxing, to prevent dust and dirt from accumulating on the bullet. Here are the benefits of shooting paperpatched bullets in your inline. The record for patching bullets by a girl at the sharps factory was 12,000 in a 10 hour day. New paper patch approach by ed wosika linkedin slideshare.
Click to enlarge the tom selleck picture and you can see the white paper patched bullets seated in the 45 110 cartridges of his gun belt. I have a 3 groove bullet that i would be using this on. Be aware that due to their custom nature, many of these bullets are designed for a specific purpose or firearm, and wont necessarily fit or feed as drawn in all guns of that caliber. Heres something that will blow your mind when you see what kind of production you get when you patch your bullets. Dec 28, 2005 i just got all the goodies to make my first pp rounds for my 45 120. Precision cnc lathe bored custom bullet casting molds. Jamison brass back in business, making brass and loaded ammo. This is a discussion on paper patching 4570 within the lever action forums, part of the gun forum category. I just got all the goodies to make my first pp rounds for my 45120. Hunting with paper patch bullets in sharps 45 120 aka 45 110 by tom ball taking elk with a paper patch bullet.
You can expect 45 caliber ppbs to expand to near silver dollar size and the 40. Excellent condition, fully decked out, double set triggers, octagon barrel, creedmore rear sight has. I emailed buffalo arms asking for a recommendation for a bullet mold for paper patching my nef buffalo classic. If you use my paper patch lube, make sure that it is as soft as butter when you apply it.
Ive been working on refining my load for my 45120 with 550gr paper patch bullets. In any event you have to have paper thick enuf that it doesnt cut completelty thru or youll get leading along the land driving edges. Obsolete and modern black powder ammo for sale buffalo arms. It shoots a 535gr ppbs paper patch bullets with 115125gr of 1. The paper acts like a jacket and keeps the lead from smearing in. Topped that with cow to protect the paper and used the mouth of a. Click to enlarge the tom selleck picture and you can see the white paperpatched bullets. Walt is a first time black powder cartridge rifle shooter and hits a 10 inch bullseye at 410 yards shooting a c. I can safely patch a cast bullet, but i would have some concerns of loosing a patch in the barrel of of a copper. Jul 02, 2009 paper patch vs lube, black powder is paper patching a fair replacement for lube in a black powder rifle for conicals.
Choose a design from our catalog or submit your own custom design. You can clearly see the paper patch leaves the barrel intact around the bullet at 00. I am thinking of ordering a custom mould for something like you show, but with just a little more meplat for hunting. North american muzzleloader hunting shares a couple of ways to patch lead bullets and the papers that works best. Sources indicate the sharps rifle company offered a variety of bullets in this caliber, including a 293 grain express, a 400 grain grooved bullet and paper patched bullets in 400, 420, 500 and 550 grains. Mar, 2018 hunting with paper patch bullets in sharps 45 120 aka 45 110. Unless you are going to swage them from lead wire, pure lead is a pain to cast.
It seems most target shooters prefer a 201 lead to tin. Jamison brass back in business, making brass and loaded. Paper patches let a shooter get the same velocities from lead bullets as with jacketed bullets. A 45110 was a max of 110 grains of black powder and a 540 grain patched bullet. I was telling one of my shooting buddies about it and he gave me a can that he won at a match some time back. After shooting with the greasegroove bullets, the brass will be expanded nicely and paperpatch bullets can be loaded with ease. Ive been working on refining my load for my 45 120 with 550gr paper patch bullets. In the 1870s, paper patch bullets were available from sharps as hard as 1. I dont presently shoot 4570 but have recently gotten involved with the 50 alaskan cartridge. Whether you have a sharps, rollingblock, or a hawkin, all can be loaded using the paper patch method. Mar 06, 2014 using a two stage sizing process to create cheap bullets to keep you shooting. When wrapped in two layers of thin cotton paper, this produced a final size of. Dec 03, 2012 after shooting with the greasegroove bullets, the brass will be expanded nicely and paperpatch bullets can be loaded with ease.
You can also watch as the paper patch comes off the bullet between the muzzle at 00. The 45110 stands for 45 caliber and 110 grains of black powder. Paper patch bullets were used in the 1800s for target shooting and hunting and are still being used today. May 17, 2016 you can clearly see the paper patch leaves the barrel intact around the bullet at 00. In my opinion, paper patched bullets was a kind of fashion in the early black powder cartridge era, and they were not necessarily better compared to grease grooved bullets. Greetings, i was all excited to shoot this new sharps 1874. Okay, so what distinguishes a paper patch chamber from a non paper patch chamber. Hunting with paper patch bullets in sharps 45120 aka 45110 by tom ball. I cast about 100 bullets last weekend and i need to size them down to a diameter that will allow them to be pressed into the brass. My 21year old son eric and i drew cow elk tags as our second choice in our favorite hunt unit in the bighorn basin of wyoming.
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